Scatola movimento centrale d'artigano | Tretlagergehaeuse - Rahmenbau-Liebe Im Detail (Handwerkskunst) | elaborate bottom bracket shells

[Avi.1990]

Caroli Sport Bici Center @ Via dei Mille, 9, 48014 Castel bolognese RA (Ravenna),

Rivola

since 1963 till 2005

@ Massalombarda, Ravenna, Emilia-Romagna


brazed by Gianni Rivola, second son of founder Giovanni Rivola, first son was named Coppi after the Campionissimo from Novi Ligure. First inhouse frame builder Rivolas was Umberto Chiesa di Bologna.

501...504... ..

foderi carro posteriore a coda di rondine - Schwalbenschwanz Hinterbaustreben - dovetail rearstays


Cinelli CCM bottom bracket shell investment cast designed by Cinelli by Gianni Gabella maybe (1982 he designed new lugs there) produced by Microfusione italiana

Campagnolo 1010/b Porta catena dropouts porduced by Tecnociclo Sestese, of G. Papalardo @ Milano

Colmbus tubing

original fork missing

no crack on the seat lug!!!

 

[Avi.1990]

Rivola

since 1963 till 2005

@ Massalombarda, Ravenna, Emilia-Romagna


brazed by Gianni Rivola, second son of founder Giovanni Rivola, first son was named Coppi after the Campionissimo from Novi Ligure. First inhouse frame builder Rivolas was Umberto Chiesa di Bologna.

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foderi carro posteriore a coda di rondine - Schwalbenschwanz Hinterbaustreben - dovetail rearstays


Campagnolo 1010/b Porta catena dropouts porduced by Tecnociclo Sestese, of G. Papalardo @ Milano

Colmbus MultiShape tubing

verniciatura (paintwork) Mario Martini di Lugo, Ravenna

 

[Simplex]

kopfschütteln weil:
a) "tssss, der junge hat versagt"
oder
b) "die bohrung ist nicht wirklich versetzt sondern noch im toleranz-bereich"
?

Ich würde mir nicht erlauben, hier mit Steinen auf Heilige zu werfen...

 

[Avi.1990]

Gibt's ein Foto von der gabelzunge? Hat schon fast was von einem milani, wären da nicht die ausfaller.

Bisher nicht oder zumindest nicht zu Gesicht bekommen, frag mal @Isostar .
Bin ja nicht so zimperlich mit .

 

[Avi.1990]

Richard Sachs

cross frame

only detail shots -no full frame visible

from 1976

 

[Avi.1990]

 

[Avi.1990]

Richard Sachs


1979

strada

 

[Avi.1990]

 

[Avi.1990]

Olivetti

Reggio Emilia in Emilia-Romagna

framebuilder

bottom bracket shell remindes of Pelàs timeless classic »butterfly« cut-out, dropouts are a coda di rondine (dovetail) fashion Orazio Grenzis, on the following Olivetti the fork blades reinforcement tangs have hearts cut-outs like Luigino »Gino« Milanis (but not on the {rear} brake bridge), PLUS look how the right rear stays are modified towards the dropout on the "inside" like by Umberto Chiesa and later Gianni Rivola???

sus sheesh ma come
mannaggia acci-picchio
pofferbacco
perdindirindina

Number two:

 

[Avi.1990]

Olivetti

from

Reggio Emilia in Emilia-Romagna { ol' Ravi 'Rivola}

seatlug reminds of early Rivola s by Chiesa or frames of the Volta s
maybe then revised and new fork with a panto common for Orazio Grenzi s on Maurizio, Olivetti, Vaccari and so on. Other distinctive mark Grenzi s sometimes is the sliglthly ligtning shaped reinforcement tang of the fork crown.

(ventilation bore of the chainstay bridge orientation facing direction of travel, like on the pink flakes Maurizio or the darker champagne Olivetti... and this one is even located/placed/drilled decentral Chiesa ???)

special Campag dropout, very short production period!

cheers.

 

[Avi.1990]

Gibt's ein Foto von der gabelzunge? Hat schon fast was von einem milani, wären da nicht die ausfaller.

Wird es jetzt interessant ;-)?

Bisher nicht oder zumindest nicht zu Gesicht bekommen, frag mal @Isostar .
Bin ja nicht so zimperlich mit .

Sodele (datt orangene Maurizio befindet sich auch hier im thread).

Olivetti

Reggio Emilia in Emilia-Romagna

framebuilder

bottom bracket shell remindes of Pelàs timeless classic »butterfly« cut-out, dropouts are a coda di rondine (dovetail) fashion Orazio Grenzis, on the following Olivetti the fork blades reinforcement tangs have hearts cut-outs like Luigino »Gino« Milanis (but not on the {rear} brake bridge), PLUS look how the right rear stays are modified towards the dropout on the "inside" like by Umberto Chiesa and later Gianni Rivola???

sus sheesh ma come
mannaggia acci-picchio
pofferbacco
perdindirindina
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Olivetti

from

Reggio Emilia in Emilia-Romagna { ol' Ravi 'Rivola}

seatlug reminds of early Rivola s by Chiesa or frames of the Volta s
maybe then revised and new fork with a panto common for Orazio Grenzi s on Maurizio, Olivetti, Vaccari and so on. Other distinctive mark Grenzi s sometimes is the sliglthly ligtning shaped reinforcement tang of the fork crown.

(ventilation bore of the chainstay bridge orientation facing direction of travel, like on the pink flakes Maurizio or the darker champagne Olivetti... and this one is even located/placed/drilled decentral Chiesa ???)

special Campag dropout, very short production period!

cheers.


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[Gidetun]

Unbekannter Hersteller, aber sehr schöne Details und gut verarbeitet

 

[Vintage-Racer]

Unbekannter Hersteller, aber sehr schöne Details und gut verarbeitet

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...mit den so charakteristisch geformten Vitus-Ausfallenden.

 

[Gidetun]

...mit den so charakteristisch geformten Vitus-Ausfallenden.

Die Ösen für Schutzbleche passen leider nicht ins Gesamtbild

 

[Helmholtz]

LAUER

Claus Lauer, Altenkirchen, 1931-2021

Wahrscheinlich aus 1975.

Gesamtansicht:

 

[Avi.1990]

Cicli Fantini

Bruno Fantini, alumni di Umberto Chiesa

Highlight last picture
right rear stays are modified on the inner side towards the dropout
like Chiesa used to do it and then later Gianni Rivola and Patelli...

same lugs like on Ortelli*, Oriello, Rivola and Patelli
*from here:
https://www.rennrad-news.de/forum/t...ket-shells-frame-building.167126/post-5176730

 

[Avi.1990]

Cicli Patelli

Bologna, capoluogo dell' Emilia-Romagna

right rear stays are modified on the inner side towards the dropout
like Chiesa used to do it and then later his two alumni Bruno Fantini &Gianni Rivola or Patelli...

same lugs as on a Ortelli, (Fantini, Aldo, Oriello, Dosi almost)

two different panto on the head tube lugs, upper differs from lower
the lower version is used on the Patelli of this post, more rarely seen, the upper is more common.

sus sheesh mamma mia!!!
accipicchio
perdindirindina

 

[Avi.1990]

 

[Avi.1990]

Tiziano

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Highlight third picture




right rear stays are modified on the inner side towards the dropout
like Chiesa used to do it and then later his two alumni Bruno Fantini as Gianni Rivola or by Patelli...


vendor says made in Ortellis workshop where mechanic Tiziano worked could be a Fantini or Patelli too build by the latter Patelli, derailleur cable guiding style under the bb shell gives it away to the eagle eyed among us

 

[-LUPO-]

Just for the record…
Ciöcc hat sehr sehr feine Rahmen gebaut.

Schöne frühe Umwerferkonstruktion, Cinelligabel und Bremsmuttern.